“Originally Posted by JacqueCan I do a clean install with an upgrade version of windows xp? I know I was
able to do one with windows 95 many years ago. Does anybody have any ideas
on this. I want to format my hard drive and all I have is an upgrade xp.
Thanks for any help.
drive. Download the formating tools for your model hard drive, make a
bootable CD from the download. Use the tool to partition and format (choose
NTFS) the drive. Put in the XP CD and install on the formatted partition you
just made. Use the product key that came with the upgrade CD. The install
will ask for a qualifying prior version of windows CD. When prompted, insert
a Win 95, 98, ME or even a XP OEM CD. The install will then prompt you to
reinsert the Windows XP CD and the install will proceed. Works very smoothly
as long as you have the qualifying media.
“ "Dan @
Yes, you can clean install. Go to the website of the maker of your hard
drive. Download the formating tools for your model hard drive, make a
bootable CD from the download. Use the tool to partition and format
(choose NTFS) the drive. Put in the XP CD and install on the formatted
partition you just made. Use the product key that came with the upgrade
CD. The install will ask for a qualifying prior version of windows CD.
When prompted, insert a Win 95, 98, ME or even a XP OEM CD. The install
will then prompt you to reinsert the Windows XP CD and the install will
proceed. Works very smoothly as long as you have the qualifying media.
install CD, provide his older OS disk when prompted, and do the
deletion/creation/formatting of partitions from within the XP installation
routine.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows - What
you will need on-hand
Malke
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Mark Adams said this on 1/6/2009 10:11 AM:
If the OP has another win95 etc CD, this is great.
If "and all I have is an upgrade xp" means he has no other CD's, this
won't work.
If I recall correctly, during the install of XP you can format the
drive, without the formatting tools from the drive vendor.
“ "Dan @
Yes, you can clean install. Go to the website of the maker of your hard
drive. Download the formating tools for your model hard drive, make a
bootable CD from the download. Use the tool to partition and format (choose
NTFS) the drive. Put in the XP CD and install on the formatted partition you
just made. Use the product key that came with the upgrade CD. The install
will ask for a qualifying prior version of windows CD. When prompted, insert
a Win 95, 98, ME or even a XP OEM CD. The install will then prompt you to
reinsert the Windows XP CD and the install will proceed. Works very smoothly
as long as you have the qualifying media.
If "and all I have is an upgrade xp" means he has no other CD's, this
won't work.
If I recall correctly, during the install of XP you can format the
drive, without the formatting tools from the drive vendor.
“Originally Posted by Big_AlMark Adams said this on 1/6/2009 10:11 AM:
If the OP has another win95 etc CD, this is great.
If "and all I have is an upgrade xp" means he has no other CD's, this
won't work.
If I recall correctly, during the install of XP you can format the
drive, without the formatting tools from the drive vendor.
hour sometimes; to complete the format. The tools from the hard drive
manufacturer take just a few seconds or minutes. You can download the tool,
create the bootable media, and format the drive in less time than than the XP
disk takes to do the format. You now have the bootable media for future use
for free. Your mileage may vary, but for me XP's format is always WAAAAY
slower for some reason.
spammer “ If you have a large drive to format, using the XP disk may take most of an
hour sometimes; to complete the format. The tools from the hard drive
manufacturer take just a few seconds or minutes. You can download the tool,
create the bootable media, and format the drive in less time than than the XP
disk takes to do the format. You now have the bootable media for future use
for free. Your mileage may vary, but for me XP's format is always WAAAAY
slower for some reason.
Ubuntu, the CD is far superior.
Alias
“ If you have a large drive to format, using the XP disk may take most of an
hour sometimes; to complete the format. The tools from the hard drive
manufacturer take just a few seconds or minutes. You can download the tool,
create the bootable media, and format the drive in less time than than the XP
disk takes to do the format. You now have the bootable media for future use
for free. Your mileage may vary, but for me XP's format is always WAAAAY
slower for some reason.
just fine but if you want to use the preferred NTFS file system you are
better off using the Windows XP utilities. The proprietary nature of
the NTFS file system along with the revisions introduced in almost each
new Windows version makes most of these third party tools less than
reliable at handling the task. Not many third party companies hold
license to provide NTFS formatting utilities, the only one that I can
think of which /may/ be licensed is Paragon.
John
"John John (MVP)" wrote:
Gee, you learn something new every day. I've used Maxblast, Diskwizard, and
Lifeguard for Maxtor, Seagate, and Western Digital hard drives and all of
them can format FAT, FAT32, or NTFS. They can also make separate partitions
of differing formats so "Alias" can dual boot. They can clone your old hard
drive to a new one of the appropriate make. Maxblast even works for those old
Quantum Fireball disks in older machines. I've used all of these and I've
never had any formating trouble with any of these utilities, and they are
free. Hitachi and Toshiba probably have similar utilities as well. One
advantage the XP disk has is that it will format anybody's hard drive, which
the others will not.
“ If you want to format FAT32 other non-Microsoft tools will do the job
just fine but if you want to use the preferred NTFS file system you are
better off using the Windows XP utilities. The proprietary nature of
the NTFS file system along with the revisions introduced in almost each
new Windows version makes most of these third party tools less than
reliable at handling the task. Not many third party companies hold
license to provide NTFS formatting utilities, the only one that I can
think of which /may/ be licensed is Paragon.
John
Lifeguard for Maxtor, Seagate, and Western Digital hard drives and all of
them can format FAT, FAT32, or NTFS. They can also make separate partitions
of differing formats so "Alias" can dual boot. They can clone your old hard
drive to a new one of the appropriate make. Maxblast even works for those old
Quantum Fireball disks in older machines. I've used all of these and I've
never had any formating trouble with any of these utilities, and they are
free. Hitachi and Toshiba probably have similar utilities as well. One
advantage the XP disk has is that it will format anybody's hard drive, which
the others will not.
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:53:17 -0500, "Dan @
Yes, if you own a previous qualifying version of Windows.
The requirement to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see
below), not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a previous
qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to insert its CD as
proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD, and follow
the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.
You can also do a clean installation if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it *can* be
done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP upgrade CD
from within that restored system, and change from Upgrade to New
Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete the partition and
start over
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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“ Can I do a clean install with an upgrade version of windows xp? I know I was
able to do one with windows 95 many years ago. Does anybody have any ideas
on this. I want to format my hard drive and all I have is an upgrade xp.
Thanks for any help.
Yes, if you own a previous qualifying version of Windows.
The requirement to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see
below), not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a previous
qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to insert its CD as
proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD, and follow
the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.
You can also do a clean installation if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it *can* be
done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP upgrade CD
from within that restored system, and change from Upgrade to New
Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete the partition and
start over
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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